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[Transcript]

0:11
°í¹éÇÒ °Ô Àִµ¥¿ä. Àü ¾²·¹±âÅë µÚÁö´Â °É ÁÁ¾ÆÇÕ´Ï´Ù. ¹¹ ÀÌ»óÇÑ °Ç ¾Æ´Ï°í¿ä. º¸ÅëÀº ³°Àº ÀüÀÚÁ¦Ç°À» ã½À´Ï´Ù. ±×°É ÀÛ¾÷½Ç¿¡ °¡Á®°¡¼­ ¶â¾î º¸ÁÒ. Àü ½Ãµð·Ò µå¶óÀ̺꿡 ÁýÂøÁõÀÌ ÀÖ¾î¿ä. ±× ¾È¿¡´Â ¼¼ °¡Áö ¸ðÅÍ°¡ µé¾î Àִµ¥¿ä. ±×°É·Î ¿òÁ÷ÀÌ´Â ¹°°ÇÀ» ¸¸µé ¼ö ÀÖÁÒ. ±× ¾È¿¡ ½ºÀ§Ä¡´Â ´Ù¸¥ ¹°°ÇÀ» ÄÑ°í ²ô´Â µ¥¿¡ ¾²±âµµ ÇÕ´Ï´Ù. ±× ¾È¿¡´Â ³¡³»ÁÖ´Â ·¹ÀÌÀúµµ À־ ±×°É·Î ¸ÚÁø ·Îº¿À» ´õ ³¡³»ÁÖ°Ô ¹Ù²Ü ¼öµµ ÀÖÁÒ.
I've got a confession. I love looking through people's garbage. Now, it's not some creepy thing. I'm usually just looking for old electronics, stuff I can take to my workshop and hack. I do have a fetish for CD-ROM drives. Each one's got three different motors, so now you can build things that move. There's switches so you can turn things on and off. There's even a freaking laser, so you can make a cool robot into an awesome robot.

0:41
Àú´Â ¾²·¹±â·Î ¿©·¯ ¹°°ÇÀ» ¸¸µì´Ï´Ù. ±× Áß¿¡´Â ²Ï ¾µ¸¸ÇÑ °Íµéµµ ÀÖ¾î¿ä. ±×·±µ¥ »ç½Ç ¸»ÀÌÁÒ. Á¦°Ô À־ ¾²·¹±â´Â ³îÀÕ°¨ÀÌ¿¡¿ä. ½º½º·Î Áñ±â·Á°í ¹º°¡ °³¹ßÇÏ°í ¸¸µé°í ±×·¯ÁÒ. Á¦°¡ Á¤¸» ÁÁ¾ÆÇÏ´Â ÀÏÀ̶ó, ÇÏ·ç ÀÏ°ú°¡ µÇ¾î ¹ö·È½À´Ï´Ù. Àú´Â ´ëÇÐ ³»ÀÇ »ý¹°ÇÐ ¿¬±¸½ÇÀ» À̲ø°í Àִµ¥¿ä. ±× ¹«¾ùº¸´Ù È£±â½É°ú ¸ðÇè¿¡ °¡Ä¡¸¦ µÎ´Â ¿¬±¸½ÇÀÔ´Ï´Ù. ¹«½¼ Ưº°ÇÑ ¹®Á¦¿¡ ÁýÁßÇÏÁöµµ ¾Ê°í ¹«½¼ Ưº°ÇÑ Áúº´À» ÇØ°áÇÏÁöµµ ¾Ê¾Æ¿ä. »ç¶÷µéÀÌ ±×³É ¿Ô´Ù°¡ Èï¹ÌÀÖ´Â Áú¹®À» ´øÁ³´Ù°¡ ´äÀ» ã¾Æ°¡´Â ±×·± °÷ÀÔ´Ï´Ù. ¿À·¡ Àü¿¡ ¾Ë°Ô µÈ °ÍÀÌ Àִµ¥¿ä. »ç¶÷µé¿¡°Ô Á¦°¡ ãÀº ¾²·¹±âµé·Î ÇÊ¿äÇÑ ¹°°ÇÀ» ¸¸µé¾îº¸¶ó°í ½ÃÄѺ¸´Ï±î ±×°Ô âÀǼºÀ» Å°¿ì´Â ÁÁÀº ¹æ¹ýÀÌ µÇ´õ¶ó´Â°ÅÁÒ. ±×·¯´Ù º¸´Ï Àü¼¼°èÀÇ ¿¹¼ú°¡¿Í °úÇÐÀÚµéÀÌ Á¦ ¿¬±¸½ÇÀ» ã±â ½ÃÀÛÇÏ´õ±º¿ä. ¿ì¸®°¡ ÆÄ°ÝÀûÀÎ ¾ÆÀ̵ð¾î¸¦ Áß¿ä½ÃÇؼ­°¡ ¾Æ´Ï¶ó ±×°É °úÇÐÀûÀ¸·Î Ȥµ¶ÇÏ°Ô Å×½ºÆ®ÇÏ°í °ËÁõÇϱ⠶§¹®ÀÔ´Ï´Ù.
Now, I've built a lot of stuff out of garbage, and some of these things have even been kind of useful. But here's the thing, for me, garbage is just a chance to play, to be creative and build things to amuse myself. This is what I love doing, so I just made it part of my day job. I lead a university-based biological research lab, where we value curiosity and exploration above all else. We aren't focused on any particular problem, and we're not trying to solve any particular disease. This is just a place where people can come and ask fascinating questions and find answers. And I realized a long time ago that if I challenge people to build the equipment they need out of the garbage I find, it's a great way to foster creativity. And what happened was that artists and scientists from around the world started coming to my lab. And it's not just because we value unconventional ideas, it's because we test and validate them with scientific rigor.

1:40
±×·¯´Ù ¾î´À ³¯, Á¦°¡ ¹º°¡ ¶â¾îº¸°í ºÐÇØÇÏ´ø Áß¿¡ °©ÀÚ±â ÀÌ·± ¾ÆÀ̵ð¾î°¡ ¶°¿Ã¶ú¾î¿ä. »ýü¸¦ Çϵå¿þ¾îó·³ Ãë±ÞÇÒ ¼ö ÀÖÀ»±î? »ýü ½Ã½ºÅÛÀ» ºÐÇØÇÏ°í Á¶°¢µéÀ» ¼¯°í ³¢¿ö ¸ÂÃç¼­ »õ·Î¿î âÀÇÀû ¹æ¹ýÀ¸·Î ±×°É ´Ù½Ã Á¶¸³ÇÒ ¼ö ÀÖÀ»±î? ÀúÈñ ¿¬±¸½ÇÀº ±× ¿¬±¸¿¡ ¹Ù·Î Âø¼öÇß½À´Ï´Ù. ¿©·¯ºÐ²² ±× °á°ú¸¦ º¸¿© µå¸®·Á°í ÇØ¿ä.
So one day I was hacking something, I was taking it apart, and I had this sudden idea: Could I treat biology like hardware? Could I dismantle a biological system, mix and match the parts and then put it back together in some new and creative way? My lab started working on this, and I want to show you the result.

2:02
ÀÌ °úÀÏÀÌ ¹ºÁö ¾Æ½Ã°Ú¾î¿ä?
Can any of you guys tell me what fruit this is?

2:06
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Audience: Apple!

2:07
³×, ¸Â½À´Ï´Ù. »ç°úÁÒ. ÀÌÁ¦ ¿©·¯ºÐÀÌ ¾Æ¼Å¾ß ÇÒ °ÍÀÌ ÀÌ »ç°ú´Â ´Ù¸¥ °Íµéº¸´Ù ÈξÀ »¡°£µ¥¿ä. ¿Ö³ÄÇϸé ÀÌ ¾È¿¡ Àΰ£ ¼¼Æ÷¸¦ ¹è¾çÇ߱⠶§¹®ÀÔ´Ï´Ù. ¿ÏÀü ¹«°áÇÑ ¸ÅŲÅä½Ã »ç°ú¸¦ °¡Á®´Ù°¡ »ç°úÀÇ ¸ðµç ¼¼Æ÷¿Í DNA¸¦ Á¦°ÅÇÏ°í Àΰ£¼¼Æ÷¸¦ À̽ÄÇß½À´Ï´Ù. »ç°úÀÇ ¸ðµç ¼¼Æ÷¸¦ Á¦°ÅÇÏ°í ¼¶À¯Á¶Á÷ »À´ë¸¸ ³²°Üµ×ÁÒ. ÀÌ »À´ë´Â ½Ä¹°ÀÇ ¸ð¾ç°ú Áú°¨À» ¸¸µé¾îÁÝ´Ï´Ù. ¿©±â ÀÛÀº ±¸¸ÛÀÌ º¸À̽ÇÅÙµ¥ ¿ø·¡´Â »ç°ú ¼¼Æ÷°¡ ÀÖ´ø °÷ÀÔ´Ï´Ù. ÀÌ°É °¡Á®´Ù°¡ Æ÷À¯·ùÀÇ ¼¼Æ÷¸¦ À̽ÄÇß½À´Ï´Ù. ÆĶõ»ö ºÎºÐÀä. ¹«½¼ ÀÏÀÌ ÀϾ´Â°¡ Çϸé, ÀÌ ³à¼®µéÀÌ º¹Á¦¸¦ ½ÃÀÛÇؼ­ ÀÌ »À´ë ¾ÈÀ» ¸ðµÎ ä¿ì°Ô µË´Ï´Ù.
That's right -- it's an apple. Now, I actually want you to notice as well that this is a lot redder than most apples. And that's because we grew human cells into it. We took a totally innocent Macintosh apple, removed all the apple cells and DNA and then implanted human cells. And what we're left with after removing all the apple cells is this cellulose scaffold. This is the stuff that gives plants their shape and texture. And these little holes that you can see, this is where all the apple cells used to be. So then we come along, we implant some mammalian cells that you can see in blue. What happens is, these guys start multiplying and they fill up this entire scaffold.

2:49
±â¹¦ÇØ º¸ÀÌÁö¸¸ ½ÇÁ¦·Î ¿ì¸® ½ÅüÁ¶Á÷ÀÌ ¸¸µé¾îÁö´Â °úÁ¤À» ¿¬»óÇÏ°Ô µË´Ï´Ù. ±×¸®°í »çÀüÀÓ»ó½ÇÇè¿¡¼­ ¾Ë¾Æ³½ »ç½ÇÀº ÀÌ »À´ë ±¸Á¶¸¦ ¸ö¿¡µµ À̽ÄÇÒ ¼ö ÀÖ´Ù´Â °Å¿¹¿ä. ±×·¯¸é ½Åü´Â ¿©±â¿¡ ¼¼Æ÷¸¦ º¸³»°í Ç÷¾×À» °ø±ÞÇì¼­ °è¼Ó »ì¾ÆÀÖ°Ô ÇÕ´Ï´Ù. ¿äÄÁ´ë, »ç¶÷µéÀÌ Á¦°Ô ÀÌ·¸°Ô ¹°¾îº¸°ÚÁÒ. "¾Øµå·ù, »ç°ú·Î ¸ö ÀϺθ¦ ¸¸µé ¼ö Àִٸ鼭¿ä?" ±×·¯¸é Á¦ ´ë´äÀº "Á¦´ë·Î ã¾Æ¿À¼Ì½À´Ï´Ù."
As weird as this is, it's actually really reminiscent of how our own tissues are organized. And we found in our pre-clinical work that you can implant these scaffolds into the body, and the body will send in cells and a blood supply and actually keep these things alive. This is the point when people started asking me, "Andrew, can you make body parts out of apples?" And I'm like, "You've come to the right place."

3:17
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(Laughter)

3:18
ÀÌ°É Á¦ ¾Æ³»¿¡°Ô º¸¿©ÁØ ÀûÀÌ ÀÖ½À´Ï´Ù. Á¦ ¾Æ³»´Â ¾Ç±â Á¦ÀÛÀ» Çϴµ¥¿ä. ³ª¹«Á¶°¢À» ±²ÀåÈ÷ ¸¹ÀÌ ÇÕ´Ï´Ù. Á¦°¡ ¾Æ³»¿¡°Ô ºÎŹÇß¾î¿ä. "ºÎŹÀÌ Àִµ¥, ¸» ±×´ë·Î ±Í ¸ð¾çÀ¸·Î ÀÌ »ç°ú¸¦ Á» ±ð¾ÆÁÖ°Ú¾î?" ±×³à´Â ±×·¸°Ô ÇØÁá¾î¿ä. Àú´Â ±× ±Í¸¦ ½ÇÇè½Ç·Î °¡Á®¿Í¼­ ¹è¾çÇϱ⠽ÃÀÛÇß½À´Ï´Ù. ³×, ¾Ë¾Æ¿ä.
I actually brought this up with my wife. She's a musical instrument maker, and she does a lot of wood carving for a living. So I asked her, "Could you, like, literally carve some ears out of an apple for us?" And she did. So I took her ears to the lab. We then started preparing them. Yeah, I know.

3:41
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(Laughter)

3:44
ÁøÂ¥ ´ë´ÜÇÑ ¿¬±¸½ÇÀÌÁÒ.
It's a good lab, man.

3:46
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(Laughter)

3:47
±×¸®°í ±× À§¿¡ ¼¼Æ÷¸¦ Å°¿üÁÒ. ÀÌ°Ô ±× °á°úÀÔ´Ï´Ù.
And then we grew cells on them. And this is the result.

3:52
±×·±µ¥¿ä. Á¦ ¿¬±¸½ÇÀÌ ±Í Á¦Á¶ »ç¾÷À» ÇÏ´Â °Ç ¾Æ´Ï°í¿ä. »ç¶÷µéÀº ½ÇÁ¦·Î ¼ö½Ê ³â°£ ÀÌ·± ¿¬±¸¸¦ ÇØ¿Ô½À´Ï´Ù. Áß¿äÇÑ °Ç ¸»ÀÌÁÒ. »ó¾÷¿ë »À´ë Á¶Á÷Àº Á¤¸» ºñ½Î°í ¹®Á¦µµ ¸¹½À´Ï´Ù. ƯÇãÁ¦Ç°À̳ª µ¿¹°, »çü·Î ¸¸µé±â ¶§¹®ÀÌÁÒ. ÀúÈñ´Â ¸î Ǭ ¾ÈµÇ´Â °¡°ÝÀÇ »ç°ú¸¦ ÀÌ¿ëÇß¾î¿ä.
Listen, my lab is not in the ear-manufacturing business. People have actually been working on this for decades. Here's the issue: commercial scaffolds can be really expensive and problematic, because they're sourced from proprietary products, animals or cadavers. We used an apple and it cost pennies.

4:21
Á¤¸» ´ë´ÜÇÑ °ÍÀº ÀÌ°É ¸¸µå´Â °Ô ÀüÇô ¾î·ÆÁö ¾Ê´Ù´Â °Ì´Ï´Ù. ÇÊ¿äÇÑ Àåºñ´Â ¾²·¹±â·Î ¸¸µé ¼ö ÀÖ¾î¿ä. ÁÖ¿ä °øÁ¤¿¡ ÇÊ¿äÇÑ °Å¶ó°ï ºñ´©¿Í ¹°ÀÔ´Ï´Ù. ±×·¡¼­ ¿ì¸®´Â ÀÌ ¹æ¹ýÀ» ÀÎÅͳݿ¡ ¿ÀǼҽº·Î ´Ù °ø°³Çß½À´Ï´Ù. ±× µÚ¿¡ ¾î´À »çȸ±â¿©±â¾÷ÀÇ Áö¿øÀ» ¹Þ¾Æ ÀÌ°É ½±°Ô ¸¸µé ¼ö ÀÖ´Â Á¦ÀÛÅ°Æ®¸¦ °³¹ßÇÏ°í ÀÖ½À´Ï´Ù. ´©±¸³ª ¼¼¸é´ë¿Í ³³¶«¿ë Àεθ¸ ÀÖÀ¸¸é Áý¿¡¼­µµ ½±°Ô ¸¸µé ¼ö ÀÖÁÒ. Á¦°¡ Á¤¸» ±â´ëµÇ´Â °Ç, ¾ðÁ¨°¡´Â ºÎ¾ý¿¡¼­ ¸¸µç Àç·áµé·Î ¿ì¸® ¸öÀ» °íÄ¡°í, Àç»ýÇÏ°í, º¸°­ÇÏ´Â ÀÏÀÌ °¡´ÉÇÏ°Ô µÉ °Å¶ó´Â °Ì´Ï´Ù.
What's also really cool here is it's not that hard to make these things. The equipment you need can be built from garbage, and the key processing step only requires soap and water. So what we did was put all the instructions online as open source. And then we founded a mission-driven company, and we're developing kits to make it easier for anyone with a sink and a soldering iron to make these things at home. What I'm really curious about is if one day, it will be possible to repair, rebuild and augment our own bodies with stuff we make in the kitchen.

5:00
ºÎ¾ýÀ̶ó°í ÇÏ´Ï ¸»Àä. ¿©±â ¾Æ½ºÆĶó°Å½º°¡ ÀÖ½À´Ï´Ù. ¸Àµµ ÁÁ°í, ¿©·¯ºÐÀÇ ¼Òº¯ ³¿»õ¸¦ ¹¦ÇÏ°Ô ¸¸µéÁÒ.
Speaking of kitchens, here's some asparagus. They're tasty, and they make your pee smell funny.

5:07
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(Laughter)

5:08
Á¦°¡ ºÎ¾ý¿¡ ÀÖ´Ù°¡, ¹ß°ßÇÑ °ÍÀÌ Àִµ¥¿ä. ¾Æ½ºÆĶó°Å½º Áٱ⠾Ʒ¡ÂÊÀ» º¸¸é ÀÛÀº °ü °°Àº °ÍÀÌ º¸ÀÌÁÒ. ÀÌ°É ½ÇÇè½Ç¿¡¼­ Âï¾î º¸¸é ¼¶À¯Á¶Á÷ÀÌ ÀÌ·ç´Â ±¸Á¶¸¦ º¼ ¼ö ÀÖ½À´Ï´Ù. ÀÌ ±×¸²À» º¸°í µÎ °¡Áö°¡ ¶°¿Ã¶ú´Âµ¥¿ä. ¿ì¸® Ç÷°ü°ú ½Å°æ¸Á, ôÃ߽ŰæÀÇ ±¸¼º°ú ±¸Á¶ÀÔ´Ï´Ù.
Now, I was in my kitchen, and I was noticing that when you look down the stalks of these asparagus, what you can see are all these tiny little vessels. And when we image them in the lab, you can see how the cellulose forms these structures. This image reminds me of two things: our blood vessels and the structure and organization of our nerves and spinal cord.

5:30
±×·³ Áú¹®À» µå·Áº¸ÁÒ. ÀÌ ½Å°æ¸ÁÀÇ Ãà»öµ¹±â¿Í ½Å°æ¼¼Æ÷¸¦ Å°¿ï ¼ö ÀÖÀ»±î¿ä? ¸¸¾à °¡´ÉÇÏ´Ù¸é ¼Õ»óµÇ¾ú°Å³ª À߸° ½Å°æ¸ÁÀ» ¿¬°áÇÏ´Â µ¥¿¡ ÀÌ ¾Æ½ºÆĶó°Å½º¸¦ »ç¿ëÇÒ ¼öµµ ÀÖ°ÚÁÒ. ½ÉÁö¾î ô¼ö ¿¬°á¿¡µµ¿ä. ¿ÀÇØÇÏ½Ã¸é ¾ÈµÇ´Â °Ç ÀÌ°Ç Æ¯È÷ µµÀüÀûÀÎ ÀÏÀÌ°í Á¤¸» Èûµç ÀÏÀÔ´Ï´Ù. ÀúÈñ¸¸ ÀÌ ¿¬±¸¸¦ ÇÏ´Â °Ç ¾Æ´Ï¿¡¿ä. ÇÏÁö¸¸, ¾Æ½ºÆĶó°Å½º¸¦ ÀÌ¿ëÇÏ´Â °Ç ÀúÈñ »ÓÀÔ´Ï´Ù.
So here's the question: Can we grow axons and neurons down these channels? Because if we can, then maybe we can use asparagus to form new connections between the ends of damaged and severed nerves. Or maybe even a spinal cord. Don't get me wrong -- this is exceptionally challenging and really hard work to do, and we are not the only ones working on this. But we are the only ones using asparagus.

6:00
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(Laughter)

6:03
Áö±ÝÀº °¡´É¼ºÀ» º¸¿©ÁÖ´Â Ãʱ⠵¥ÀÌÅ͸¸ È®º¸ÇÑ »óÅÂÀÔ´Ï´Ù. ±×¸®°í Á¶Á÷°øÇÐÀÚµé°ú ½Å°æ¿Ü°ú ÀÇ»çµé°ú Çù¾÷ÇÏ¿© Á¤¸» °¡´ÉÇÑ °Ô ¹ºÁö ¾Ë¾Æº¸°í ÀÖÁÒ.
Right now, we've got really promising pilot data. And we're working with tissue engineers and neurosurgeons to find out what's actually possible.

6:11
ÀÚ ÀÌÁ¦, Á¦°¡ ¼Ò°³ÇÑ ÀÌ ¸ðµç ¿¬±¸¸¦ Çѹø º¸¼¼¿ä. ¿©±â ¹«´ë¿¡ ÀÖ´Â ¹°°Çµé ±×¸®°í ½ÇÇè½Ç¿¡¼­ ¿¬±¸ÁßÀÎ ´Ù¸¥ ÇÁ·ÎÁ§Æ®µé ÀÌ ¸ðµÎ°¡ ¿©·¯ºÐÀÇ ¾²·¹±â·Î ³î´ø Áß¿¡ ³ª¿Â °á°ú¹°µéÀÔ´Ï´Ù. ³ë´Â °Í. ÀÌ°ÍÀÌ Á¦ °úÇÐ ¿¬±¸ÀÇ Áß¿äÇÑ ºÎºÐÀÔ´Ï´Ù. ±×°ÍÀÌ Á¦ »ç°í¹æ½ÄÀÇ Æ²À» ±ú°í âÀÇÀûÀ¸·Î ÈÆ·ÃÇÏ´Â ¹æ¹ýÀÌÁÒ. ±×·¡¼­ »ç°ú·Î »ç¶÷ÀÇ ±Í¸¦ ¸¸µé »ý°¢µµ Çß´ø °ÅÁÒ.
So listen, all of the work I've shown you, the stuff that I've built that's all around me on this stage and the other projects my lab is involved in are all a direct result of me playing with your garbage. Play -- play is a key part of my scientific practice. It's how I train my mind to be unconventional and to be creative and to decide to make human apple ears.

6:37
±×·¯´Ï, ´ÙÀ½¿¡ ¿©·¯ºÐµéµµ ³°°í, ¸Á°¡Áö°í, Á¦±â´Éµµ ¾ÈÇÏ°í, °íö°ú ´Ù¸§¾ø´Â ±â±â°¡ ÀÖ´Ù¸é Àú¸¦ ¶°¿Ã·Á ÁÖ¼¼¿ä. Àü ±×·± °Ô ÇÊ¿äÇϴϱî¿ä.
So, the next time any of you are looking at some old, broken-down, malfunctioning, piece-of-crap technology, I want you to think of me. Because I want it.

6:50
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(Laughter)

6:51
Á¤¸»·Î¿ä. ¾î¶»°Ôµç Á¦°Ô ¿¬¶ôÀ» ÁÖ¼¼¿ä. ±×°É·Î ¹» ¸¸µé ¼ö ÀÖÀ»Áö ÇÔ²² ¹æ¹ýÀ» ã¾Æº¸ÁÒ.
Seriously, please find any way to get in touch with me, and let's see what we can build.

6:57
°¨»çÇÕ´Ï´Ù.
Thank you.

6:58
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